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Blog Cabin: Conspiracy theories about Pat Tillman

Posted on: May 9, 2008 6:35 pm
Edited on: May 9, 2008 7:58 pm
 
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Anyone who listens to sports talk radio has heard a lot from Mary Tillman over the last couple of days. Mary is, of course, the mother of late Arizona Cardinals safety and U.S. Army Ranger Pat Tillman.

Her recent media tour has been an effort to publicize her new book; Boots on the Ground by Dusk: My Tribute to Pat Tillman. The book details Pat’s life, and Mary’s search for the truth about his friendly-fire death in Afghanistan in 2004.

In the book, and on the radio, Pat’s mom has been extremely critical of the military and the government. She’s even gone so far as to say that, at times, she thought Pat may have been intentionally murdered by the government. She’s also said that the soldiers who shot him were itching to fight, and reacted in some kind of blood-lust haze.

According to Mary, It’s a conspiracy that reaches the highest levels of the government; including former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and even President George W. Bush.

I certainly can’t blame her for being angry with the government and military. Almost as soon as Pat was killed, it was evident to everyone on the mission that Pat had been killed by friendly fire. However, when the story came out in the media, it was reported that Pat died a hero’s death, that he commanded his troops brilliantly and bravely, despite the mortal wound that he sustained early in the battle.

It wasn’t true.

And, it wasn’t until a month later that Pat’s family found out the truth... or what Mary Tillman suspects was some skewed version of it. She believes the actual facts were hidden when Pat died, due to the political ramifications it would have had at the time.

With Bush’s approval ratings in the toilet following the Abu Ghraib prison scandal, Mary says the administration could not afford to own up to a botched operation which resulted in the death of the country’s most well-known soldier.

It makes sense... and it doesn’t.

I’m sure there were mix-ups in the story’s early going. I wouldn’t be surprised if the soldiers in Pat’s unit decided to tell their superiors that Pat died a heroic death in the firefight that took place when their convoy was ambushed, rather then tell them he was accidentally shot following that battle. The ensuing autopsy and investigation would have forced them to admit to the friendly-fire incident shortly thereafter.

It’s just a guess, of course, but the conspiracy theory that Mary has come up with seems a little more far-fetched. These men are Army Rangers, after all. They’re some of the best trained military specialists in the world, and demonizing them as blood-thirsty war-mongers just seems wrong. And, you can say what you want about America’s politicians, but accusing them of assassinating the country’s most beloved warrior is crazy.

Perhaps pointing fingers is her way of dealing with the unfathomable pain that those events have caused. Maybe writing this book played a big part in her healing. Maybe her outrage is more a product of those emotions than of actual fact.

Whatever the case, all things can be forgiven in the face of such tragedy. America lost a great patriot and football player, but Mary lost a son. And there’s always a chance she’s right about this whole mess. She definitely knows a lot more about the situation than I do.

The only people who really know are the men in Pat’s unit, and the one soldier from that unit I have heard speak about Pat’s death described the typical “fog of war” situation, with soldiers trying to protect themselves and each other.

I guess I’ll be picking up that book, though, if for no other reason than because half the pages are devoted to Pat’s life before he enlisted in the Army after 9/11.

R.I.P. Pat Tillman. Never forget his sacrifice, or those of all the troops.
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Posted on: May 10, 2008 8:54 am

Blog Cabin: Conspiracy theories about Pat Tillman

Time to sound like an A.. H...

Forgive me if I don't weep for poor Mrs Tillman

"She’s even gone so far as to say that, at times, she thought Pat may have been intentionally murdered by the government. "

What would make that woman think that??? Does she think her son was THAT important in the grand scheme of things?? The dude was an E-4. He was NOT that vital a cog in the Army. Hate ta tell ya folks, but unless you have stars on your shoulder, you are expendable.

"She’s also said that the soldiers who shot him were itching to fight, and reacted in some kind of blood-lust haze."

If the others were Marines, I could see that.....

j/k Devil Dogs, but if anybody does act the part of blood lusted maniacs, it's the Marines, and they revel in that fact. NOT to the point of shooting one of their own however. Shame on you, Mrs Tillman, for thinking that his fellow soldiers did it for kicks.

"According to Mary, It’s a conspiracy that reaches the highest levels of the government; including former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and even President George W. Bush."

Now had Tillman played for the 2004 Patriots, and Arlan Spector was the President.....I could see this. But once again, in the grand scheme of the war, Pat was NOT all that important.

Servicemembers die due to friendly fire. Tillman was NOT the first, nor will he be the last. Now I can't say for certainty how the military notifies the NOK in friendly fire cases, but I would think that the families would like to know that their loved ones died in the actual defense of their unit, country, selves, whatever, instead of an accident, which is what friendly fire is. Don't make Tillman out to be this sole martyr. Over 400 people have died in Afghanistan, and many more have died in Iraq. Some of them ALOT more important to the military than Tillman. In fact just this morning, we had a "Fallen Comrade" Ceremony here on base. It's not just our people dying over here either. The Germans, Dutch, Canadians, Brits, Kiwi's, Egyptians, are amongst the MANY countries in Afghanistan, trying to turn this craphole into a decent place to live for the people living here, not to mention the actual police of this country. Don't blame the military, or the government , or the fellow soldiers in his unit for the death of Tillman. Blame the (BTW, I am NOT a Republican) terrorists. Blame Bin Laden. Blame the Taliban. Blame Al Quaida. Blame Hezbollah. Heck, you can even blame Israel. I might even go so far a to say blame Clinton before you blame Bush. Blame the government that we ousted in Afghanistan. These are the same people who believe women should not receive proper health care and that wives should eat AFTER everybody else. Blame the people with NO tolerance for anybody who is different. In my opinion, these people are JUST as bad as the Nazi's. There are plenty of REAL bad people to blame. Don't be like the the political parties and place all the blame for all the problems of the world on other Americans unless it deserves to be there.  Instead, blame the people who wanted your sons and daughters dead, simply for being  a Westerner.

(For the record, this was posted from deep within Afghanistan )



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Posted on: May 11, 2008 2:08 am

Blog Cabin: Conspiracy theories about Pat Tillman

Great football player, made a great sacrifice.

Our government needs to take lessons from real heroes, on how to run this country better.

Do like Tillman, make a sacrifice.

To walk in someone elses shoes isnt easy, even if they fit.

R.I.P. Pat Bless you and your family.



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Posted on: May 11, 2008 2:37 pm

Blog Cabin: Conspiracy theories about Pat Tillman

Shes an attention-whoring opportunist, using her son's accident and the govt's attempt at making him look great ( can't blame them there ) to pound the administration when it was already down. I don't like them either but i dont use dead bodies as soap boxes.



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